USS McCloy (DE-1038 / FF-1038)
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Subject: USS McCloy DE/FF 1038
Date: 04-6-2000
From: Mark Brannon

Hi Jack,
I stumbled across your McCloy website by accident and I'm still in shock. I remember walking up the brow as an MM2 in '74, fresh off a nuc sub. I thought I'd died and gone to heaven. So much room compared to an attack boat...And I didn't have to share my rack!

I remember Ernie Hutchens, the engineroom LPO, already had his 20 in, all on destroyers, and still busting his ass every day. He taught me how to fix anything with no parts and no tools.

I remember Pappy Case, the first Chief that ever gave a damn about me.

I remember the North Atlantic cruise in '74 where we clocked a 55 degree roll. The shipyard in '75; living on the cold hulk in dry-dock, so cold in engineering berthing a glass of water froze on the scuttlebutt; walking a half mile to eat on a barge; eating Blind-Mans takeout sandwiches for days on end.

I remember GITMO in the summer, wiping out a main-circ pump turbine bearing in transit. We tied open the scoop injection, never slowed below 3 knots and we fixed it.

I remember making First Class. Ernie and Pappy are gone and I've got the load. There's supposed to be 25 of us in M-division. There's me, an MM2 and 9 firemen. The best damn firemen in the US Navy. At least two went on to make chief and one to master chief.

The Med cruise '76 and that damn TASS van. Always steaming in the troughs at 5 knots 'cause they got a 'squiggle'. Days on end with constant 30-40 degree rolls. Trice yourself up in your rack, or steal straps from the stokes stretchers just to get some sleep. Food spilled over every square inch of the mess decks.

I remember a mid-Atlantic storm with 60 foot seas. 2 days with 15 knots rung up and we lost 10 miles of advance. The only place you could exit the skin of the ship was the bridge wings. You look up to see the top of the wave. One wave, from horizon to horizon. A huge wall of water. Look astern and there's it's brother. We fell into a trough so hard we sheared off the after con binnacle flush with the deck, lost every lifeline and scupper and snapped the masthead off at the 10 radar platform. It dangled loose up there for days, held on by the power cable to the masthead light. The next morning we discovered a dead whale wrapped around the sonar dome.

I remember standing EOOW watches for GQ, Unrep, sea and anchor and underway. Me and the Chief Engineer standing 6 and 6. He doesn't like me to leave the hole so I sleep under the ladder in case he has a problem. This is Carter's Navy, everybody is leaving. We can barely get underway for the lack of people.

I remember the Lebanese Evacuation in '77. We're sent up near Syria as a northern ASW screen and we wipe out the forward spring bearing so badly the bearing melts to the backing and the paint on the cap catches fire. Pretty serious on a single screw ship. Me and the boys jack up the shaft, roll out the old bearing and fit a new one. The ship's DIW and Syrian gunboats are making mock firing runs on us. The squadron preacher's aboard and he prays every few hours on the 1MC that 'Brannon and his boys get that damn bearing fixed so we can get out of here'. It takes 40 hours. We never stop, we never take a break. I'll never understand why the navy gave me a medal for that. My boys did all the work.

I didn't know when I left her in '79 that I was leaving the best command I would ever serve in. I made chief right after I left. The test was a piece of cake. I'd learned it all on the McCloy. Of all the ships I served in (Orion, Gato, L.Mendel Rivers, Luce, Austin) none could ever compare to the McCloy. She became the standard that all my other commands were measured by. She was little, she was tough, she rode hard and she was always underway. She had the best officers and crew I ever served with. I went aboard in '74 a punk with an attitude and left 5 years later a professional sailor.

I remember once on the Austin, where I'm the oldest guy on the ship, with more sea time than the entire CPO mess combined, when a young, cocky sailor is complaining about the 10 degree rolls we're taking and I said "You think this is bad, let me tell about this little escort destroyer I was on........."

Mark Brannon

Subject: USS McCloy FF-1038
Date: 03-28-2000
From: Dennis Conrad

Hi Jack,
Thanks for your efforts in maintaining a great site. I'm signed in to the former crew pages for the USS McCloy (DE/FF-1038) and the USS Albert David (DE/FF-1050). I used my business e-mail address when I first logged on and it has changed since then. Can you change the link to me on these pages to go to my new address or is there something I need to do?

My new business e-mail address is "". My home e-mail address is "". Considering that position shifts are sometimes spontaneous in the defense industry, it may be better to use my home address. Again, thanks for your efforts at this site.

Dennis Conrad OTCS
1979 - 1982

Subject: USS McCloy FF-1038
Date: 03-27-2000
From: Marc Cutter

I was a crewmember from 1978 to 1980. It was the most rockin' rollin' tin can in the fleet. The former CO, LCDR Vern Clark became the CNO in July 2000.

Marc S. Cutter BT2

Subject: USS McCLOY FF 1038
Date: 03-25-2000
From: Ken Murray

My name is Ken Murray, onboard from 70-72. RD3 & RDSN in that order. Had alot of fun anyway. My brother,Mike Murray HMSN, was a plank owner. I rode the "bull" back from Portugal. Mickey Gilley had nothing on that ride. I was onboard when she got the nickname "The Fightin Johnny Mac", recieved after close quarter "combat" with crewmembers of the "Rock" (USS Little Rock CLG-4). Action started in the Dixie Cup (Gitmo), continued on the cattle car, on the pier and finished onboard the "Rock". We were small but deadly. Accept all e-mails from former shipmates.

Ken Murray

Subject: USS McCloy FF-1038
Date: 03-14-2000
From: Rich Dunn

My name is Rich Dunn I served aboard the McCloy from 76 thru 79. I have some McCloy pictures I scanned that I am sending to you.

Rich Dunn OS2

Subject: USS McCloy DE-1038
Date: 01-26-2000
From: Daniel Welsh

Hi Jack,
My name is Dan Welsh and I served aboard the USS McCloy from 1963-1965. I am one of the original plank owners aboard the McCloy also the patch that you show on this site is a very nice patch but it is not the original patch used when it was a DE. Just thought you would like to know that. I was an RM2 when I got out and the McCloy radio name was the "bronze warrior" not sure what she uses today.

Dan Welsh RM2

Subject: USS McCLOY DE-1038
Date: 99-11-06
From: Mike McNamara

My name is Mike McNamara. I rode the McCloy from 71-73, as best I can place the time. I was an ETN2. Some of your comments about how the ship rode the waves were right on the mark. I believe I was onboard with the Nettles fellow you mentioned. In fact, I believe we rode together. I just need to check my records for specific dates. Your name is familiar, but I have two different faces in mind. May be a symptom of aging.

After leaving McCloy, I was stationed in Beeville, TX at Chase Naval Air Station and got early out to go back to UT in Austin, Texas. I got my degree in journalism in 76.

The CO of the ship for most of my tour was LCDR Paul David Miller who went on to make admiral and was considered for Joint Chiefs of Staff as I understand. I look forward to seeing who else might be around from that time period. By the way, I lost my North Atlantic cruise book from 71-72. Do you know if there is any way to get another?

Mike McNamara ETN2

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